I’m the executive producer of Nice Try!, Curbed’s chart-topping podcast about the perpetual search for utopian living. Season two, called “Interior,” premieres October 14, 2021, and shifts focus from the community to the domestic sphere.

In the first season, “Utopian,” host Avery Trufelman unearthed eight fascinating attempts—driven by  religion, freedom, feminism, white supremacy, commerce, ecology, and Mickey Mouse—to create “perfect” living environments. Nice Try!’s debut was recommended by The New Yorker, The New York Times, Esquire, and Vulture, and listed as one of the 10 Best Podcasts of 2019 by Apple Podcasts.

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