I’m the executive producer of Nice Try!, Curbed’s chart-topping podcast about the perpetual search for utopian living. Season two, called “Interior,” premiered in October 2021, and shifts the series’ focus from the community to the domestic sphere.

In the first season, “Utopian,” host Avery Trufelman unearthed eight fascinating attempts—driven by  religion, freedom, feminism, white supremacy, commerce, ecology, and Mickey Mouse—to create “perfect” living environments. Nice Try! has been recommended by The New Yorker, The New York Times, Esquire, WIRED, Los Angeles Review of Books, and Vulture, and was one of Apple’s 10 Best Podcasts of 2019.

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